Should Fat People just Suck it up?. I’m not looking for sympathy, just making the point that people see food differently than other addictions. A friend of mine says, “If only I could quit food cold turkey…”; Unlike the alcoholic, I can’t quit eating or going to places where people eat. Most people see overeating as a matter of will power, not addiction. So tell me – do you think food is a real addiction? Do you see it differently than other addictions? Are we ‘fat people’ just looking to be the next victim group – over sensitive and seeking protection by the politically correct gang? Should ‘fat people’ just suck it up? – Read more at http://iquitagain.com
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Well,. we don’t live in an perfect world, and we all have our problems to deal with. Obesity however is not necessarily an addiction or an overeating problem, and can be dealt with so perhaps the answer is YES suck it up and deal with it….
I agree. Not all obesity is an addiction or overeating problem – not all drunk drivers are alcoholics either. In my case, I believe I am an addict.
I don’t agree.. I don’t agree with, “if only I could quit food cold turkey…”; Unlike the alcoholic.” Alcoholics have to drink water don’t they. Alcoholics can’t stop drinking then. Just like we can’t stop eating. We are the same. Bad drink–good drink, bad food–good food.
an excellent point. Its true that alcoholics don’t quit drinking – they quit drinking alcohol. I appreciate the point.
In regards to the differences – an alcoholic can avoid places that service alcohol – they don’t have a beer shoved in their face at work or a shot pushed their way during the holidays by a family member that would be offended if they don’t ‘try it’ – with food, its different.
At work, doughnuts are brought in weekly, pot lucks and vendor provided lunches may have health choices included – the ‘bad’ stuff is there as well. And if I don’t try a piece of my sisters pie, she thinks I’m made at her.
dsackr there is one place. we can make safe and that is our home. We can move out the bad and move in the good. Then when we come home at the end of the day and shut the front door. It’s all left out side. We can create a safe haven a harbor from the storm.
Powerful statement. §.
Maybe if. I lived alone. I have a wife and two kids (and one on the way) and I know that we are supposed to convince our families to support us by not bringing in bad food – but telling my wife not to buy the kids poptarts just didn’t work.
I’m fighting a battle with myself to accept that I am an addict – my wife isn’t even close to understanding the implications or even agreeing with the assessment.
When I go home – the storm continues. But this is all new to me (I just started OA, yesterday). I expect things will get better as I learn more, and find more people who understand the addiction.
Which is why I posted here – I’ve already gotten a lot of great comments and view points. Its also why I started my blog.
dsackr about the at home. My wife has. foods that I don’t eat here. I have in my mind they are not mine. Drawing form memory when my wifes daughter was living at home and going to college my wife would tell me these foods and snacks are Gingers. I knew to leave them alone. I was out of control with food at that time but I never got into Ginger’s food. It was not mine. That’s the name I add to food now here like, “mixed nuts, not mine.” For me it works.
Like working at a bank (I don’t)the money is just paper if it’s not mine. When it’s mine then it become money. Mixed nuts not mine–eating right OK that’s mine.
I love it. Great advise – I grew up in a big family where we all brought food into the house – often we put our names on the things that were ours…
Depends. Some just aren’t educated or choose not. to be. Some have a physical and emotional addiction to food.
And no, you can’t quite food cold turkey. I can avoid meth, but not food.
But ya gotta do whatcha gotta do, and if you gotta get therapy, or a trainer, or medical help, then DO IT.
Just Do It?. I think this sums up my point – do we tell alcoholics to “Do It”? Maybe we do, but I think there is a better understanding that alcoholics have a real addiction but overeaters just lack self control.
No, I said that SOME people do. have an addiction.
Like me.
But unlike meth or smoking, I can’t just quit food. I tried that once, I was hospitalized for ana.
Think of it this wasy, a person can pick up a beer once in a while, enoy it, then move on and not think about it. An alcoholic can’t do that.
A food addict can’t eat a french fry and then move on, just like an alcohlic can’t drink a beer. An alcoholic will keep drinking, a food addict will keep eating.
What I do believe, as with alcoholism and drug addiction, is that you have to do what it takes to beat the addiction, or else it will eat up your soul and you will be lost.
And, fyi, what are YOU doing to. beat YOUR addiction?
Beacuse you can, I promise.
gottcha. Ok – I completely agree with you – food addicts (myself included) have to abstain from certain foods like alcoholics must stay away from certain drinks (anything alcoholic).
I have to stay away from most diet alternatives as well – they trigger a beige – I’m guessing an alcoholic has to stay away from near-bear too.
I have done several things in the past, but two things I just started, I think are the most likely to help… one – I attended my first OA meeting yesterday. It was surreal because I don’t like to think of myself as an addict, but I’m learning to accept it and move on. Two – I started a blog to track my progress – http://iquitagain.com.
The first one helps me cope with the fact that I am addicted, the second one helps me to stay focused on it – keeping it front of mind.
I don’t link to blogs but please let us know. how you progress through OA. I for one would be very interested.
*hugs* hang in there! You can do this!
I only went once but private therapy seems to work better for me.
Congrats on reachign out, and please know that this group here in difo is extremely supportive and if you are having a tough time with an issue or if you have victories to report, please post!!
You will find that you are not alone!
good for you…. but part of recovery is learning what made you powerless (the emotional side of it), to learn how to control it and take back your power or control of the situation (the willpower or objective side of it). See what most people don’t think about is that addictive/self destructive behaviors don’t start with those intentions. An alcoholic/food addict/whatever doesn’t go out to a bar or a supermarket and say with purpose, “I am going to hurt myself by drinking or eating”. They are satisfying a need, which is inherently good to the mind or body (in most cases). The cycle starts to turn negative when they lose control of the situation though and the need becomes the predominant factor. It becomes all about the feeling they get from it, instead of just satisfying what the need was. You should continue your recovery, but focus a lot on the WHY’s. Why do I want this food? Am I feeding my body, or my feelings? Journaling helps a lot! It will help you understand the situations you are in when you feel certain ways about foods and why you binged or didn’t, etc.
triggering beige. is indeed something to be avoided.
i kept a blog for a long time to help me pursue my health and fitness goals. and some foods i had to avoid and then reintroduce slowly until i had a longer history of good habit than bad with them.
good luck to you – and congratulations on starting all of this before the new year.
That’s why they’re fat. they sucked up too much food.
I think understanding the motivations is part. of it.
People overeat/gain weight for various reasons. Eating too much. Bad food. Eating until they are overstuffed. No/little excercise etc. It can be habit driven, emotionally driven, knowledge (or lack thereof) driven.
I think there can be a somewhat of a physical dependency in that we can find ourselves in a sugar cycle where hunger is defined by highs and lows, and we subsequently feed that hunger with more sugar.
What I have found is that my body responds to how I treat it. If I feed it well, it tells me when I am hungry and is satisfied when I am balanced.
Trying some new recipes can help a lot. Sometimes I find myself falling to old habits when I just don’t know what to REPLACE them with.
It takes a while, but make some baby steps. Examine your habits, motivations, and desires and make small changes over time.
You can do it.
Very good point about. the old habits because they don’t know what to replace them with. Like OP should look for something to replace the pop tarts he mentioned above. Fresh strawerries and an english muffin, or on healthy cereal.
The wife can get over it – he may even have to do some shoppign to convince her at first. I know I did with fh in some cases!
I pretty much switch off between two breakfasts. 1. Oatmeal, fruit (either berries on top or diced apples cooked in), walnuts, w/cinnamon and brown sugar.
2. Fruit, cottage cheese, and peanut butter toast.
I’ve found that without the nuts or cottage cheese, I’m hungry again in two hours or so.
GREAT tip! §.
Hey dsackr. I don’t have much advice to offer, but I wanted to just wish you the very best of luck in battling your addiction. I completely agree with Jess in that most addictions (food, drugs, alcohol, ect) manifest to mask, drown, or avoid some deeper issue that’s causing you pain. I didn’t see whether you were in counseling or not, but I would highly recommend it. IMO, you’ve got to get to the root of the problem in order to truly fight it and recognize your triggers for what they are. Again, best of luck to you!